Wikipedia talk:WikiProject YouTube

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Beginnings of an essay on the notability of YouTube celebrities

Please see some research I am doing about outcomes of AfD discussions regarding YouTubers. Would it be appropriate to move that content to a new page within WikiProject YouTube, before creating an RfC around it? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

This would be a very interesting policy. If this does play out, @Curb Safe Charmer: it could be very beneficial for YouTube related articles on Wikipedia. Before we do this though, we definetly need some consesnsus. Any ideas how we could go about doing this? Jamesjpk (talk) 07:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jamesjpk, thanks for replying. My thinking is that the first step is that this should be an essay. Wikipedia:Essays says that "policies and guidelines cannot cover all circumstances, consequently many essays serve as interpretations or commentary of perceived community norms for specific topics and situations." That sounds like exactly what we should create. They have no official status, and as such they can be created without discussion, approval or consensus. Bringing my draft out of my userspace and into the main article space would encourage contributions and debate. It would only be after some level of consensus here that we would consider marking the essay as a proposal though that doesn't have to be the objective. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

We could start with that, and to encourage discussion, I can send out a group wide message notifying group users about the new essay. Where do we start? I have never created an essay before Curb Safe Charmer. Jamesjpk (talk) 18:47, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Jamesjpk I've gone ahead and created the essay here, and it is added to Category:WikiProject notability advice. Please could you encourage the other members of the project to review and comment via the talk page? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:19, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Curb Safe Charmer I am drafting a mass message right now. Thank you for creating the essay! Jamesjpk (talk) 14:41, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done Curb Safe Charmer, all I am waiting for now, are administrators to send the message. The message can be found on this page. Jamesjpk (talk) 15:12, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Maps Wikipedia talk:WikiProject YouTube

From the WikiProject desk at The Signpost

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Going forward, each participant receives the interview questions about the project's work, problems and achievements. Note: above not done, but kept to document. -- JoeHebda o (talk) 13:11, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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Question about "Related projects"

Greetings, In order to help connect WP YouTube into Wikipedia, can the Project page be updated with a "Related projects" section? For examples see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet culture#Related projects and Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet#See also. Regards, -- JoeHebda o (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Cool! I can create that now JoeHebda! Jamesjpk (talk) 16:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Y Done Jamesjpk (talk) 17:02, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Jamesjpk for doing this. It may seem like a small thing to do, but it helps with "the WP glue" AKA "What links here" (left column). This helps WP YouTube being a bit more visible. Cheers! -- JoeHebda o (talk) 17:27, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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Signpost!

We are going to go ahead and do some interviews about WikiProject YouTube for the Signpost. Are you interested in being featured? Please email me! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Jamesjpk, can I interview you? Do you have any other leads? No one has written me back unless it hit my Spam filter. >.< Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:29, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl sure! You can totally interview me! Any leads that I could maybe ask is Curb Safe Charmer, as he is a really active participant. Any thoughts? If you want to send out an interview to the whole group, I created a template that you could use:

I created it when I was interviewing the group :P. Here is the withdrawal request if it is any help: Wikipedia talk:Mass message senders (It's at the bottom) Jamesjpk (talk) 01:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl, another great lead is Hillelfrei, as he is an active participant, that is a participant in both the English Wikipedia WikiProject YouTube, and the Simple Wikipedia WikiProject YouTube. Jamesjpk (talk) 06:22, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@Jamesjpk, Hillelfrei, and Curb Safe Charmer: Sounds good! I'll follow up with everyone later and check my email. I just got back from a road trip, so may not have all questions ready till tomorrow. Thanks for the cool template, too. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

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Assessing importance of articles

I'm suggesting/proposing this rule of thumb, or guideline of sorts:

• Top importance: Basically any article related to the core of YouTube (YouTube itself, its founders, the list of most subbed channels, the list of most liked videos, articles of non-Vevo YouTubers with over 20 million subscribers, the Spotlight channel, MCNs, YouTube Red, the social impact article, just things like that)
• High importance: Everything else in the YouTube navbox template (note: I think we should discuss if Video game walkthrough belongs in this template); also any YouTuber with over 10 million subscribers
• Mid importance: Any YouTuber with over 5 million subscribers, although YouTubers with less probably should still be included if they had historical influence on YouTube (like if they used to be #1 most subscribed on the channel or were otherwise popular on YouTube before it made the big switch over to emphasizing watch time over video views and all that) + specific viral videos (more iconic viral videos can probably be included in High or possibly even Top importance)
• Low importance: basically everything else

Also, when it comes to musicians, if they became popular on YouTube and are known for being YouTubers, they should be assessed with higher importance in this WikiProject than musicians that were already popular and just have Vevo channels (i.e. Lindsey Stirling and Christina Grimmie should be assessed higher than say, One Direction or Ed Sheeran.)

Soulbust (talk) 07:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of Elijah Daniel for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Elijah Daniel is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elijah Daniel (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sagecandor (talk) 21:01, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

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Discord Chat

Noticed this new project while browsing today. I wanted leave a friendly invitation to you, if any of you might be interested, to an unofficial Wikimedia Discord channel. Discord is a free chat program that a few editors use as an alternative to IRC, available for PC and mobile. We setup sub-channels as needed or requested, and if there's interest, I will be glad to add one for this project. The server is moderated by enwiki administrators, and we expect the general IRC conduct rules to be followed. You can reach the server with this link. -- ferret (talk) 23:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

More information now available at WP:Discord. -- ferret (talk) 22:13, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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Are these ladies notable?

Blaire White (YouTube) and Zinnia Jones if no what is the standard to be a notable youtuber? Dwanyewest (talk) 00:14, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

As there is no specific guideline for Youtubers, Wikipedia:Notability (people) applies. What kind of secondary reliable sourcing do you have for either? -- ferret (talk) 00:19, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest and Ferret: please see Wikipedia:WikiProject YouTube/Notability for what I have established to be the position on notability of YouTubers. This is a personal essay and falls short of being a Wikipedia guideline mostly because of a lack of peer review - so if either of you wish to contribute to it, that would be welcome. If nothing else, it will provide you easy access to a range of AfD discussions about YouTubers and you can see the type of arguments made both for keeping and for deleting them. I am currently attempting to have something added to WP:PEOPLEOUTCOMES - see this discussion. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:32, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

For Blaire White I have these sources [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]. Dwanyewest (talk) 00:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Zinnia Jones I have these sources [9][10][11][12][13] do you think either of these people have merit ferret (talk) ? Dwanyewest (talk) 00:50, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

I'd say you have enough to at least start a draft. I don't work on BLPs much so I hesitate to say "yes". One comment though, is you've at least two cases where you seem to be linking to where the person is an author for a site. That won't help with WP:N as they are essentially not about the person, but simply written by the person. It might help a little bit in showing they have been published though. -- ferret (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Liza Koshy needs an article. Unfortunately, I do not have time to do it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

• see Liza Koshy (actress).--Milowent o ^hasspoken 18:04, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

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List of most viewed YouTube videos split?

Hey gang, I don't venture around here much. But I thought I'd bring this your attention, I didn't do it on the talk page of the article because it seems to be a bigger thing. So there's List of most viewed YouTube videos, and it seems as though 1990hello1990 is maybe doing a split? I say that because of his recent creations which seem to nearly duplicate this article. Such as...

• Historical most viewed videos on Youtube
• Most viewed YouTube videos by year of release
• Youtube billion view club

That last one I think, at the least, is a bit misnamed, since I could only find one reference referring to it as the "Billion view club". Anywho, not sure if this is something or nothing, but figured having more eyes on it couldn't be a bad thing. Drewmutt (^?^) talk 02:32, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Liza Koshy (actress)

This article has been nominated for deletion. You can comment here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liza Koshy (actress) -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

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